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4v4 - Hyp's crazy idea

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Hey everyone. Most of you think I'm like 70 yrs old an senile so I'm just going to go ahead and prove that assumption.

Now, some of you may remember when this game started as 4v4 for the xfire tournament. I think there are even a few out there that are inclined to agree that 4v4 was more fun. I changed my away message on xfire to: 4v4 for COD4 and I got at least 5 positive responses. And since we all now 1 positive response equals a billion people, I have 5 billion people that agree with me (Family Guy reference for those of you that live in a hole). I'm not very good with numbers but I'm pretty that's a lot of people.

Anywho, on a more serious note, below I've outlined my perceived advantages to a 4v4 format. With TGL playoffs finishing up, CAL (somewhat) mid-season and CEVO S2 right around the corner, I think we have an opportune time to make the switch.

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Cheaper LAN funding - less registration, less food and overall less cost to sponsors


Easier to form and maintain teams - it always seems like teams are looking for that 5th player. I think reducing the number of
players goes a long way to creating and sustaining more teams


Map size - let's be honest, the majority of the maps are a bit crowded with 10 players (crash/backlot to name two), hell even
pipeline wasn't bad 4v4. I think this opens up alot of things and some you'll see in this list


Faster gameplay - this mostly stems from less splits and more dedicated rushes to a particular bomb site. I think teams will
be inclined to push everyone to a bomb rather than run splits (especially with single bomb)


Dynamic strategies - (see #4) + more diversity in strats on D+O (player placement will have to be more thought out) which makes the game more interesting/creative (<3 nuz)


Spectator friendly - it's easier to pay attention to 8 players than it is 10. Sometimes those "wow" kills are missed because
the camera man is on the wrong player (not their fault, just the way it is)


One less nade - self explanatory


Slightly more focus on individual player skill and accountability - right now alot of teams just unleash one player and let them
run around getting as many kills as possible. With one less player they're a little more accountable for what happens.


It's not Counter Strike - for all you CS haters


More scrims - More teams = more scrims (since it's alot easier to balance 4 player schedules vs 5)

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That's about all I can think of at the moment. I know it's not traditionally how things were done but it's been proven to work in the xfire tournament. Once again it's probably just me rambling but I thought I would throw it out there.

And yes, I'm being completely serious.

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afterward somebody pointed THIS out: this game was originally made for 4v4 xbox competition.

thoughts?
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(in Borat voice) you sir have a metal retardation.

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One less nade - self explanatory

One less nade.... well if there are 4 nades there are still 4 people to get naded as if there were 5 nades there would be 5 people to get naded. Now does that make any sense to you?

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More scrims - More teams = more scrims (since it's alot easier to balance 4 player schedules vs 5)

And no one scrims because the game is half dead in the first place.

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With one less player they're a little more accountable for what happens.

Well doesn't this just mean that the one player that rapes face has an easier job b/c there are now only 4 people on the opposing team.

Really man? Did you even stop to think about what you are typing?

This comment was edited at 07/02/2008 10:51 AM
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just no.
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btw- i didnt write this, Hyp on the CAL forums did. just thought id share it with a more international community to see what the response would be.
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Yeah well hyp is a unicorning idiot.
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go on
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#2 well said
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WELL WHEN YOU PUT IT LIKE THAT, MIGHT ASWELL DO 1V1.
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1v1 - 4 less nades - self explanitory XD
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Don't flame him too fast. Let the fun go on for a while first -_-

there is good reason to change it to 4v4. nor is there a good reason for it to be 5v5. just the way the game is. and how it has been played.

why does it matter.
carlisle?
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we told him already ...
#50|cal - #LostProphets - #eGe
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the_carlisle you disappointed me :( Expected a nice rape from you :)

ANYHOE, it really doesnt matter between 4/4 or 5/5 cuz the gameplay wont get any faster then this. It is also that dedicated teams do manage to get a 5 pit crew so its really a pro to me, since all those new teams die quick because they cant keep a 5 headed line-up.

/bucket of crap
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interesting :P wont happen tho!

This comment was edited at 07/03/2008 11:08 AM
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wah?
#codgaming.dk ~ www.codgaming.dk
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Yeah "his brilliant Idea"

Did you forget that COD4 started with a 4v4 tournament you stupid FUCK. It changed for a reason, get over it. COD4 is not going to have any major LANs in the US. COD2 had it's big LAN then WSVG died, move on.
Dora da forum explorah
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Love the idea.
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Yeah "his brilliant Idea"

Did you forget that COD4 started with a 4v4 tournament you stupid FCK. It changed for a reason, get over it. COD4 is not going to have any major LANs in the US. COD2 had it's big LAN then WSVG died, move on.


you clearly got issues. Solve them please and move on yourself.

This comment was edited at 07/04/2008 7:32 AM

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Did you forget that COD4 started with a 4v4 tournament you stupid FUCK


well, actually no, it didn't.

i32 was technically the first tournament in the world because it was bang on the release date, and that was 5v5

cod is always meant for 5on5, and this 4on4 tournie got flamed to sh_it when it was announced .. so it wasn't as if everyone was playing 4on4 and all of a sudden changed... 5on5 has always been the main thing.
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what an awful idea :/
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You should try it.
In my opinion, it's not bad, not good.
I don't know.
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I have a brilliant idea too !!! lets play 10 on 10 from now on
You have to own or get owned !!!
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#19

what hes proposing is that it doesnt have to be the ''main thing'' because theres no reason for it to be the MAIN THING.

vcod was played 6v6 (for a while)

cod is not made for 5v5/4v4/6v6/ anything because infinity ward makes this game for the xbox pubbers and casual gamers that play 12v12.

4v4 is a much better way to play this game. especially because the maps are small as shit.

4v4 - better strats that call for more rotation. stable teams. and more LAN tournouts.

when he mentioned 1 less nade. clearly he was referring to the fact that less people will be dying by nades. and if it doesnt make sense to you. your clearly an idiot.

just because the xfire tourney got flamed for being a 4v4 doesnt mean it was a bad idea. there was nothing wrong with it. we just went back to 5v5 because we played cod2. i vote we move back to 4v4.

try it out at least.


oh and #2 saying that the game is 1/2 dead isnt a valid argument at all.

This comment was edited at 07/05/2008 4:19 PM
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yeah actually it is a valid argument because if it isnt what is?
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the game isnt dead yet....... it has nothing to do w/ the gameplay of 4v4/5v5.
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the game isn't dead yet .... but its still an atrocious game
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The game is fun for pub, but competitive aspect is just terrible.

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